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Mar
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Wild Justice lodges more court papers – this time challenging casual bird killing in Wales

Wild Justice has launched it’s latest legal case, challenging what it argues is the unlawful casual killing of birds in Wales.

Full details on the Wild Justice blog here

If you’d like to support Wild Justice take this case through the courts, please visit the crowdfunder page here

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4 Responses to “Wild Justice lodges more court papers – this time challenging casual bird killing in Wales”


  1. 1 Iain Gibson
    March 18, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    Good on you, Wild Justice. My cheque is on its way, just wish I could afford more! It’s great that this general problem is being taken seriously at last. I’m impressed that your message focuses on the humble Jackdaw, because I’ve been actively pressing (locally) for review of the entire crow family for many years now. I’ve had literally no success from RSPB or with local and national government agencies. Nothing but hums or haws from various RSPB officers I’ve dealt with, most of whom haven’t been willing to make the matter further. By now I’d almost given up in despair, so I’m very happy that Wild Justice has come along. Their coalition (formal or informal) with RPUK also helps to reinforce my feelings. However my heart sinks a bit more when remembering the first time I heard RSPB announcing that they were killing crows on their reserves. I know (but don’t accept) their reasoning, but the general membership is confused and the shooting organisations tell their members (and the public) that RSPB is hypocritical by adopting “vermin control.” My slight worry now is that I’ve yet to hear any bird organisation condemning the needless massacres of rookeries or the practice of shooting crows, foxes etc on their reserves. Or the woman in Bearsden who allegedly traps and wrings the necks of over a hundred Magpies annually. Or the many thousands of wild birds (whether protected or not) being shot ever year by hobby hunters. In Scotland our national conservation agency, Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH) has a number of specialists who are highly knowledgeable, but unfortunately on the other side they have some fresh-faced new recruits who respond to some complaints by quickly referring to legislation and making a determination which, to some of us, seems to lean towards the interest of the applicant rather than strictly adhering to natural heritage concerns.

  2. 2 Paul V Irving
    March 20, 2020 at 8:19 am

    Crows are successful, adaptable and clever, all the things that make them able to live in our world where many other birds fail. Its simple really any killing should justifiable. The science is quite clear on this despite the clamouring of the “tweed set” jay, jackdaw, rook and controversially magpie should be off the list end of. Carrion Crow the evidence is good but not that good so it stays on simple really.
    Like Iain I have always objected to rookery shoots. I can recall a conversation with a young keeper who was having a rant about the local vicar stopping them shooting rooks in the churchyard– well they are black they must be evil!

    • 3 Iain Gibson
      March 20, 2020 at 9:43 pm

      Paul, this is my third attempt to respond. I spent a while drafting my follow-on comment, but no matter how many times I attempted to send it, I received a message along the lines of “This message cannot be sent…”. Very frustrating.

      I won’t go into detail with this attempt, but my opening began “Well said Paul…”. However, I do disagree that there is sufficient evidence to condemn Carrion Crows, as everything they do is entirely natural. I have studied them, albeit casually, for many years now, also comparing Magpies and other members of the crow family. I declare them all innocent! Does Man really have to declare any of them as ‘pests’? I think not. In a sense there is no need to cull them anyway, as modern pesticides have already done that job. Intensively marketed by chemical companies, certain farmland pesticides now kill vast numbers of soil invertebrates, leading to low productivity by a range of species including Carrion Crow, Rooks, Lapwings, Starlings, and winter thrush flocks feeding in fields. That’s why we see so many cultivated grasslands (mainly pastures) looking like bird-free bowling greens nowadays. I predicted this would happen when I worked with pesticide representatives, and carried out projects examining farmland features for wildlife, over fifteen years ago.

      Can you provide any reference that you consider sufficient evidence that Carrion Crows should be declared fair game for any community, especially gamekeepers and (some) farmers. I believe, based on objective observations over 50 years, that Carrion Crows deserve the same protection as most, if not all, wild birds on the protected lists.

  3. 4 Palustre
    March 20, 2020 at 6:41 pm

    I support the cause, but I’m not sure about the timing of this one guys, with all that’s going on in the country / world just now. Would be interested to hear your view on this.

    [Ed: Thanks, Palustre. Have a look at the Wild Justice blog for an explanation about the timing: https://wildjustice.org.uk/general/basc-blow-a-gasket/ ]


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