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The real price of grouse: episode 7

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Here’s episode 7 in a series of videos hosted by Chris Packham about the #NotSoGlorious damaging management practices associated with the driven grouse shooting industry. Episode one (an introduction to driven grouse shooting) can be watched here.  Episode 2 (the damaging environmental effects of heather burning) can be watched here. Episode 3 (traps) can be watched here. Episode 4 (parasites, medication and the mass killing of mountain hares) can be watched here. Episode 5 (flooding) can be watched here. Episode 6 (how your taxes are helping to subsidise driven grouse shooting) can be watched here.

Here’s episode 7, where Chris interviews Paul Irving, a raptor monitoring expert from the North of England, about black holes for Hen Harriers:

Over 121,000 people have joined Chris and signed the e-petition to ban driven grouse shooting. We’ve passed the 100,000 signatures needed to trigger a Westminster debate and we’re currently waiting to hear when that debate will take place. In the meantime, this petition is open until 20th September and the more signatures, the better. Please join us and sign HERE 

Thank you!

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4 Responses to “The real price of grouse: episode 7”


  1. September 11, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    I am thinking about the debate…. and any action that might come from it.

    They will be faced with the choice of:
    1. Ignore the issue (this is a tory government)
    2. Procrastinate…. I suspect this will be their first choice. (Something like… lets give the plan 5 years).
    3. Will it spark an official investigation… some sort of Commission?
    4. Plan for licencing?
    5. Ban… sadly the least likely. (this is a tory government.)

    Re 2+3, we all know that this has been the backbone of the governments position for the past 30 years, so we need to let them know just how badly it has failed. Lets keep that door firmly closed.

  2. 2 Mr Greer Hart, senior
    September 12, 2016 at 12:58 am

    At present, the IUCN is meeting in Hawaii, and 9000 delegates will adduce evidence to save a massive number of species from extinction; especially the Elephant, Rhino, Giraffe, Lion and the Great Apes, as iconic species being used to attract donations from a caring and concerned public. However, our concerned public of-times forgets that we have our own, home-bred highly endangered species, right here in Scotland/UK. We have our equivalent threat of the poachers and trophy shooters reducing wildlife numbers in Africa and elsewhere, with our blood sports brigade, which has no conscience over the brutality it exhibits, when its adherents pleasure themselves with their “sports” of shooting and hunting with hounds. For far too long, has the patient and subsidising public been numbed in heart and mind, to just how a large part of the British countryside has been mistreated by the domination of these people.

    Hitherto, they have held the stage with their very vocal supporters among our politicians, sympathetic parts of the media and a gullible part of the public, with a mesmerising conditioning that shooting estates are the backbone or our rural economy, and that the word of the yeoman gamekeeper is sacrosanct over defining what is vermin. The lackadaisical approach by our law enforcement authorities has been causing concern over the poor record of prosecution for infringers of wildlife crime laws. We now have our champions who have roused public opinion for change, and now the Scottish Government has promised to examine the whole edifice inhabited by those involved in putting an end to the persecution of our Birds of Prey, and those determined to obstruct, with all means possible, an end being put to their illegal activities. As stated in the article above, will this be another ploy to delay a solution for another usual term of five years?

    If Scotland is to improve itself, (there are many negative issues that require attention), with regard to setting an example, in reforming the way wildlife is protected, that we may create a model for species conservation, with “painful” financial and time in jail, sentencing. The marine environment also requires attention, and it is a delight to see that our fish farm industry has been issued a severe warning that it must stop shooting Seals, or else their lucrative exports to the USA will be suspended. In that issue, the Scottish Government was again to be remiss, and the determined work by ANIMAL CONCERN, SCOTLAND/SAVE OUR SEALS, is to be commended for being successful in bringing this warning to be. The impetus must be increased, with animal welfare and conservation organisations, working to make more people aware of the necessity to reform how our landscape has been and is being, abused, and that alternative economic and conservation use can be applied.

  3. 3 Jack Snipe
    September 12, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    “There is only one solution, and that is to ban driven grouse shooting.” I wholeheartedly support this statement, but foresee a problem in future should we succeed. That is an apparent naivety among proponents and supporters of the ban, that a switch to walked-up grouse shooting will solve the problem. It’s almost as if we underestimate the wealth and power of the people who shoot grouse for pleasure and social status reasons, further compounded by current investments in UK playgrounds for the super-rich global elite. If anything it will become even more important to produce a large surplus of Red Grouse for walkers to shoot in attractive numbers, so the pressure on Hen Harriers will still exist. The environmentally damaging management practices will continue. In fact having spoken to some pretty prominent figures in the shooting community, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if lobbying pressure to allow a degree of lethal control of harriers increased as a result. It is still my opinion that the only lasting solution would be to ban ALL grouse shooting, and if I could rewrite history I would have suggested to Mark Avery that his petition should have been more inclusive. However much banning driven grouse shooting would be a step in the right direction, on balance, I very much doubt if that alone will make much difference to the future for Hen Harriers. I’d love to be proved wrong.

  4. 4 Tony Warburton MBE
    September 19, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Good points Jack Snipe. Much food for thought.


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