Robin Page’s anti-raptor rhetoric torn to shreds

Robin Page 2In response to Robin Page’s idiotic rant against raptors that was published in the Daily Mail yesterday (see here), the Guardian has published a cracking retort.

When Page (Boring Ape) was asked why he hadn’t cited any scientific evidence to support his claim that raptors are causing population declines in other avian species, he said: “I don’t want to, why should I?“.

It’s a shame the grouse-moor-owning editor of the Daily Mail didn’t ask him the same question before deciding to publish.

The article in the Guardian, written by Karl Mathiesen, includes comments from Ben Sheldon (Professor of Field Ornithology, Oxford University), Jeff Knott (Head of Nature Policy, RSPB), Chris Packham and Mark Avery.

Well worth a read.

Guardian article here.

16 Responses to “Robin Page’s anti-raptor rhetoric torn to shreds”

  1. 1 Dave Dick
    May 12, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    Cracking photo – straight out of the Fast Show!…

  2. 4 Jan
    May 12, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    We need some raptors in my back garden too many wood pigeons, trouble is spring watch are not getting the importance of balance in nature, you take one animal out of the ecosystem this creates an imbalance, I wish I had a camera today, big fat wood pigeon sat in the middle of our bird bath 6 starlings came down and kept pestering him till he flew off but not before he’d poopt in the bird bath!!! Need more raptors bring it on. And stop showing the fluffy side of nature, on these wildlife programs nature is cruel, that’s how this planet evolved to be the beautiful place we all live in.

  3. May 12, 2015 at 11:15 pm

    There is a top predator that needs culling!

    Those that own and sell shooting for fun and those that act out the criminal activities to allegedly support this archaic barbarous activity.

    Perhaps a driven shoot could be their end!

    Oops! I fallen foul of the same mindset!

  4. 6 Chris Roberts
    May 12, 2015 at 11:28 pm

    Nice to read common sense, after Page’s crap that was printed in the Mail.

  5. 7 Nigel Raby
    May 13, 2015 at 12:23 am

    Well done to the Guardian.

  6. 8 Mr Greer Hart, senior
    May 13, 2015 at 1:50 am

    What concerns me is not just the Scottish/UK scene, but European one with conservationist groups sending out alarm signals about the proposals from the EU which could threaten the NATURE DIRECTIVES, which have given protection to many sites of great importance to many forms of wildlife and their habitats. It seems Hungary and Romania are about to open all their protected areas open to developers and shooters of birds. With Romania, any shooter would be able to pursue wild birds even into private property. Why is this nightmare about to happen? It is the ascendancy in power of shooting groups and trophy hunters, along with timber and mineral extractors all wanting access to previously protected areas. Has it not become apparent to those who run the EU, that a very much more knowledgeable and humane public now exists, that deplores blood sports being conducted on a ravaging scale. With a Conservative Government in power, we should not be looking to them for supporting the protection of wildlife and important habitats from inappropriate development and unsustainable hunting. Mr Cameron has become constipated over honouring the promise to rid circuses in the UK of wild animals, such as the Big Cats. Three Tory MPs have hitherto stalled bringing in this legislation, in defiance of a massive public demand for it to go through.

    We should now be adding our opinion to the EU site against any threat to protected wildlife areas, and communicating to our MEPs about our concerns. Remember, what could become a pan-European free for all o kill bird life and develop habitats into housing estates, could give the green light to those venal interests in local councils that are opportunistic and use the ploy of job creation, as a way of copying the destructive forces inherent in the EU system. There are a lot of unemployed and hungry people in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, who would not object to losing their natural heritage. It is now time for all concerned groups to begin creating an opposition force that will harangue and push those in government to maintain and even increase protection of our wildlife and habitats essential for biodiversity. Just look at the pathetic individuals we are up against, and how strong of build we are in our humane and ethical concerns. We do not need a body building course, we just need the will to face up to the bullies and beat them.

  7. 9 John Miles
    May 13, 2015 at 7:48 am

    Sadly more people read the Daily Mail than the Guardian so the damage has been done.

    • 10 crypticmirror
      May 13, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      We just need more people to do their bit. I like to go down the newsagent and supermarket and put Daily Mirrors and Heralds on top of the Daily Mail piles. If it costs them even one sale then it is worth my time. More people should do this.

    • 11 steve macsweeney
      May 15, 2015 at 9:04 am

      Those that can!

  8. May 13, 2015 at 8:38 am

    Lets face it, if people can pay through the nose to sit in a secret soho cafe and be impressed by looking at an owl that is tethered to someones glove, then a lot more work needs to be done by us Do-Gooders, proud to be standing up for our environmental future, ready to help educate those who care enough to look closer, and thick skinned enough to realise that scientific evidence and a good Guardian article will always pop that cherry back on the environmental cake… That said, time is running out for the Harriers, so lets just get this sorted asap!

  9. 13 John Taylor
    May 13, 2015 at 9:41 am

    I’m three years younger than Page, and have also spent a lifetime in and around the countryside. My observations and experiences don’t match his; I’ve recently had an examination by that famous optician that used an advert of a shepherd shearing his collie by mistake. I suggest Page is in urgent need of an appointment. (Other opticains are available.)
    To be more serious, the likes of that moron are being used by the editor of that lightweight rag to influence the thoughts of his readership. One thing I have found out is that it’s not diificult to find a bigot, get rid of Page and a clone would fill his stinking boots. Bit like if you kill, let’s say a Buzzard, another will fill the space. So there we have it, the driven game industry is intent on exterminating anything that threatens their sick business.
    Mr Page, I’m sure someone can read my missive to you, have a good day – I’m going to, I’ve got a new scope arriving today and I’m looking forward to watching those magnificent Buzzards soaring over my house!

  10. 14 wingsandwildhearts
    May 13, 2015 at 10:44 am

    Reblogged this on wingsandwildhearts and commented:
    Raptors should be protected rather than painted as scape goats.

  11. 15 sue padupa
    May 15, 2015 at 8:57 am

    This week I have been mostly eatin………..buzzards!

  12. 16 Een Historicus
    May 16, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Can´t you photoshop a black square in the photo of Mr. Page´s face next time? Seeing it twice this week was a bit of a shock for me.

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